Mat 24:22 And except those days should be
there should no flesh be saved:
but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jhn 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me
not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
man is the man of sin. This man is the very reason that it's
scriptually posible to have a rapture upto 7 years before the second
coming. But its not very likely to happen, as history teaches that the
previous 3 jewish spring feasts were fullfilled within months. I espect
the same with the harvest feasts, but then we DO have several problems;
one of them is shortage of time, for in a period of days or even months
it is impossible to pour out that much misery upon the world. Plus the
worlds demise isn't slumbering; for decades we can observe several
forms of decay or "birth pangs" as they are called.
The call sign is the "sudden destruction that cometh upon them" for it
9:4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of
through the midst of Jerusalem,
and set a mark upon the foreheads of
the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in
the midst thereof.
In the same vision 6 angels carry weapons of destruction to "spare not
even a child or women" (
9:5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after
through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye
These weapons are the wrath, of wich we shall have no portion of, for
our God is a righteous God in His judgements.
in answer of one of your questions: where we will be during the
all of us will be in heavenly places; the devil will be cast
on the earth at that time.
Now on to the hot iron called Rev.13; To connect the man of sin
to Isael, we have the "42 months" as a ruler. Here we go:
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking
great things and blasphemies;
and power was given unto him to continue
forty [and] two months.
Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple
out, and measure it not;
for it is given unto the Gentiles: and
the holy city shall they tread under foot forty [and] two months.
But wait ! read the next verse:
11:3 And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses,
prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days, clothed in
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two
candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Now back to Rev 13
13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the
saints, and to
and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
And what will happen with these 2 witnesses :
11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony,
that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them,
and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 11:8 And their dead
bodies [shall lie] in the street of the great city,
is called Sodom and Egypt,
where also our Lord was crucified.
So, the question is, who do you think are the 2 witnesses.
to the scriptures above these are semaphores for the group of people
that are persecuted and martyred in the last 7 years.
It would have been so nice.....
the 2 witnesses are in a different resurrection order..... They both
lived and died at the same time,
were brought back to life by God and
are raptured like the Lord died (for us) was brought back to life and
went to heaven,
but unfortunately those two are not us; they are not
raptured with the sound of the trumpet;
they are even in the midst of
the woes; the latter part of the Trib.
So, unfortunately Rev 13
is not the right ticket to pinpoint us in time, just days/weeks before
just after the resurection the dead in Christ, these are
the trib saints, they indeed have more glory.
Rev 13 is very nice
however to couple the man in Jhn 5:43 to the state of Israel through
Rev 11:2 or the same scripture in Ezechiel.
And with this I
answered your question: who are the (two) Trib witnesses ? They are in
a different resurrection order, they are not us.
We are either before
or after those 2; we are not them.
In anticipation of your/the
next question; well, where are we in the scripture (without a coupling
to the 2 witnesses) I will take you back to the last portion of
9:11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which [had]
inkhorn by his side,
reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou
hast commanded me.
Apparently the man clothed in linnen
(this is a type of the Holy Spirit) sealed of the people just before
the other 6 men started their work,
and was finished
others were still busy with doing their thing.
This is very (very,very,very,very) important: the fullness of the
gentiles and of the believing jews are sealed
before the 6 men are finished,
not one is added after the man clothed
in linnen came back to report, yet the judgement of God is still in
and even after the intervention of Ezechiel commenced even
heavier; for the Lord spoke out his Judgement and commenced with it.
You and I know what happens when the fullness of the Gentiles be come
in. To complete the whole thing here we go :
11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be
ignorant of this
mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits;
that blindness in
part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come
We are not appointed
to wrath. Well, how can this be.... ?
We are not appointed to wrath,
yet there is an obvious timetable between the sealing of those that
sigh and cry,
the wrath, and the whole nation of Israel accepting their
saviour as it is written in:
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the
house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem,
the spirit of
grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have
and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only
and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness
for [his] firstborn.
There is a separation of events; there are days, if not months (or
years) between the Second Coming of Christ on earth,
and us being
raptured with the last trump, they are not the same event,
just as Rosh
Hashana isn't the same thing as Yom Kippur, yet are connected with each
And the thing is that I already quoted the answer.... let's go
9:11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which [had] the
by his side,
reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast
The man in linnen is a type of the Holy Ghost,
and He reports to God.
Which means; he went into the city; sealed off
every last Gentile and Jewish believer, came out of the city, and
reported back to God.
The effect in those days is also descibed by Paul in :
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be
revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he
who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.
you see the of the man in linnen doing His work, sealing of men, until
the appointed time, when He is no longer amidst them (and reports back
to God that he sealed off each and everyone that "sigh and cry")
know, maybe you're not convinced yet, but as this understanding who the
man in linnen really is, is very (yes: very,very, very) important, i'll
take you to :
Dan 12:6 And [one] said to the man clothed in
linen, which [was] upon the waters of the river, How long [shall it be
to] the end of these wonders?
Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed
in linen, which [was] upon the waters of the river, when he held up his
right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth
for ever that [it shall be] for a time, times, and an half; and when he
shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all
these [things] shall be finished.
Here the man clothed in
linnen is revealed much more specific as being placed above the angels
having authority to sware in his Name that this period will not be
longer then 3.5 (prophetic) years; 1260 days.
we are at the mid point of the 7 years, and the man clothed in linnen
of Dan 12:6 speaks out and gives the answer.
So, the judgement will start at the 70th week and commence in a more
severe manner in the latter part of the last 7 years:
12:11 And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken
away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up,
[there shall be]
a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Dan 12:12 Blessed [is] he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand
three hundred and five and thirty days.
hope you still agree with me on the pre-wrath stance, as here in Dan
12:12 there is the waiting game until the Second Coming; the
fullfillment of Zec 12:10.
You see, Christ came unexpected for
the Jewish nation and rulers in that age,
and relatively unespected He
will take us to spare us the agony of His righteous judgement and
wrath, as promised.
More on this also in the Apocalypse of Elijah
Jhn 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another
shall come in his own name
, him ye will receive.
Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his
fathers, nor the desire of women,
nor regard any god: for he shall
magnify himself above all.
A male homosexual jew, backed by Israel and the UN/EU/US for that
The apocalypse of Elijah describes the man as slightly bald,
charismatic and persecuting/torturing jews/christians [details also
there] and causing them to flee out of the cities into the desert.
I could not find this text via google, so I scanned my own copy with
the comments of that passage and put it online on :
Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he
persecuted the woman which brought forth the man [child].
Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that
she might fly into the wilderness,
into her place, where she is
nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the
More links to the canon in those jpg-files
Scans came from :